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	<title>Comments on: Murky Coffee, Arlington: Hold That Espresso Between Your Knees</title>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://andiamnotlying.com/2008/murky-coffee-arlington-hold-that-espresso-between-your-knees/comment-page-5/#comment-7031</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, i can&#039;t believe the owner of murky is defending that douchebag.  from his public response:

&lt;i&gt;Nobody&#039;s perfect, and maybe David could have chosen different words or a slightly different tact in responding to Jeff Simmermon&#039;s request. But that&#039;s life.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;THAT&#039;S LIFE?&quot;  &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; your justification for allowing your employees to act like total a-holes?  well, buddy, i&#039;m done with murky, i&#039;ll metro to dupont to get some decent coffee if i have to.  &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, i can&#8217;t believe the owner of murky is defending that douchebag.  from his public response:</p>
<p><i>Nobody&#8217;s perfect, and maybe David could have chosen different words or a slightly different tact in responding to Jeff Simmermon&#8217;s request. But that&#8217;s life.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;THAT&#8217;S LIFE?&#8221;  <i>that&#8217;s</i> your justification for allowing your employees to act like total a-holes?  well, buddy, i&#8217;m done with murky, i&#8217;ll metro to dupont to get some decent coffee if i have to.  <i>that&#8217;s</i> life.</p>
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		<title>By: Randolph Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randolph Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m shocked that any of you tip baristas or coffe preparers of any sort.  If I don&#039;t have to sit down to consume it or it comes in a little brown paper bag, there&#039;s no tip coming.

Do you tip at McDonalds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked that any of you tip baristas or coffe preparers of any sort.  If I don&#8217;t have to sit down to consume it or it comes in a little brown paper bag, there&#8217;s no tip coming.</p>
<p>Do you tip at McDonalds?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me there&#039;s two types of customers: purists and the easy-going type. Seems Murky only wants purists. No problem-- easy-going-types, by their nature, will walk a few extra blocks and go somewhere else.

I have never seen a group of purists get together for very long before they start to argue about what&#039;s right, and what&#039;s Not Okay. This is why, usually, no one likes them. They don&#039;t even like themselves.

I live in Seattle, and I have a cousin who works Starbucks corporate. (Does that make me a coffee expert? Nah, I don&#039;t like the stuff). He tells me coffee drinkers come in a few forms: purists, people on the go, people looking for a treat, and people killing time. Starbucks caters to ALL of them. 

Call their coffee bad if you want, purists-- it&#039;s your own fault for not telling them exactly how to make it (which they WILL do).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me there&#8217;s two types of customers: purists and the easy-going type. Seems Murky only wants purists. No problem&#8211; easy-going-types, by their nature, will walk a few extra blocks and go somewhere else.</p>
<p>I have never seen a group of purists get together for very long before they start to argue about what&#8217;s right, and what&#8217;s Not Okay. This is why, usually, no one likes them. They don&#8217;t even like themselves.</p>
<p>I live in Seattle, and I have a cousin who works Starbucks corporate. (Does that make me a coffee expert? Nah, I don&#8217;t like the stuff). He tells me coffee drinkers come in a few forms: purists, people on the go, people looking for a treat, and people killing time. Starbucks caters to ALL of them. </p>
<p>Call their coffee bad if you want, purists&#8211; it&#8217;s your own fault for not telling them exactly how to make it (which they WILL do).</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work in a coffee shop a lot like Murky, and we never pulled this. I also frequent one of Murky&#039;s barista-contest rivals in NC when I&#039;m there and they don&#039;t care about icing espresso either.

I was in Murky this weekend and while I didn&#039;t have that same experience, I&#039;ve been less than satisfied with their service (except on Saturdays -- that staff is pretty good). On Sunday I got glared at for asking for decaf at 4 pm -- it&#039;s not my fault that if I have stimulants after 2 pm I can&#039;t get to sleep. And I know it tastes like chemical garbage, but I&#039;d like to get to bed before 2 am if I have work the next day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in a coffee shop a lot like Murky, and we never pulled this. I also frequent one of Murky&#8217;s barista-contest rivals in NC when I&#8217;m there and they don&#8217;t care about icing espresso either.</p>
<p>I was in Murky this weekend and while I didn&#8217;t have that same experience, I&#8217;ve been less than satisfied with their service (except on Saturdays &#8212; that staff is pretty good). On Sunday I got glared at for asking for decaf at 4 pm &#8212; it&#8217;s not my fault that if I have stimulants after 2 pm I can&#8217;t get to sleep. And I know it tastes like chemical garbage, but I&#8217;d like to get to bed before 2 am if I have work the next day!</p>
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		<title>By: Dk Ping</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dk Ping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously,

it&#039;s just an incident over coffee.

Get over it kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously,</p>
<p>it&#8217;s just an incident over coffee.</p>
<p>Get over it kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://andiamnotlying.com/2008/murky-coffee-arlington-hold-that-espresso-between-your-knees/comment-page-5/#comment-7026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also love, for pure irony&#039;s sake, that the current top post on one of the blogs Nick co-authors is all about how putting red wine over ice isn&#039;t heresy:

http://airsusie.blogspot.com/2008/07/reds-on-ice-its-not-heresy.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also love, for pure irony&#8217;s sake, that the current top post on one of the blogs Nick co-authors is all about how putting red wine over ice isn&#8217;t heresy:</p>
<p><a href="http://airsusie.blogspot.com/2008/07/reds-on-ice-its-not-heresy.html" rel="nofollow">http://airsusie.blogspot.com/2008/07/reds-on-ice-its-not-heresy.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ezra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ezra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The customer service debate is beside the point. The real crux of the matter is the fact that we have all these people walking around talking about coffeemaking as an &quot;art.&quot; I suppose that&#039;s what happens with bourgeois kids who have never seen a craft before --- they get these airs about the mundane idea of doing something well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The customer service debate is beside the point. The real crux of the matter is the fact that we have all these people walking around talking about coffeemaking as an &#8220;art.&#8221; I suppose that&#8217;s what happens with bourgeois kids who have never seen a craft before &#8212; they get these airs about the mundane idea of doing something well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, follow me here.  Murky Coffee&#039;s roasted beans come from Counter Culture Coffee:

http://murkycoffee.com/shtml/faq.shtml

Counter Culture Coffee has a page describing the &quot;perfect iced coffee&quot;:

http://www.counterculturecoffee.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=574&amp;Itemid=

and at the bottom of this page is a promo link to Imbibe Magazine&#039;s &quot;2008 Ultimate Summer Drinks Guide&quot;:

http://www.counterculturecoffee.com/docs/Imbibe_icedcoffee_2008.pdf

At the bottom of the sidebar on the fourth page of that guide (marked page 42 in the PDF) is the following paragraph:

&quot;Some cafes don&#039;t serve iced coffee at all -- only iced Americanos.  When ice rubs up next to ice cubes, things can sour, literally.  But with good technique, skilled baristas can make great tasting iced espresso.&quot;

Just thought that string of facts was a bit ironic, given Nick&#039;s idiotic *insistence* on the horror of iced espresso.  I guess he and his baristas should just be exhibiting better technique...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, follow me here.  Murky Coffee&#8217;s roasted beans come from Counter Culture Coffee:</p>
<p><a href="http://murkycoffee.com/shtml/faq.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://murkycoffee.com/shtml/faq.shtml</a></p>
<p>Counter Culture Coffee has a page describing the &#8220;perfect iced coffee&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterculturecoffee.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=574&#038;Itemid" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterculturecoffee.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=574&#038;Itemid</a>=</p>
<p>and at the bottom of this page is a promo link to Imbibe Magazine&#8217;s &#8220;2008 Ultimate Summer Drinks Guide&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterculturecoffee.com/docs/Imbibe_icedcoffee_2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterculturecoffee.com/docs/Imbibe_icedcoffee_2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>At the bottom of the sidebar on the fourth page of that guide (marked page 42 in the PDF) is the following paragraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;Some cafes don&#8217;t serve iced coffee at all &#8212; only iced Americanos.  When ice rubs up next to ice cubes, things can sour, literally.  But with good technique, skilled baristas can make great tasting iced espresso.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just thought that string of facts was a bit ironic, given Nick&#8217;s idiotic *insistence* on the horror of iced espresso.  I guess he and his baristas should just be exhibiting better technique&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fake Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Barista, there&#039;s always gonna be a schmuck who&#039;s gonna put ketchup on his filet mignon. You might be right, but he still has final say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Barista, there&#8217;s always gonna be a schmuck who&#8217;s gonna put ketchup on his filet mignon. You might be right, but he still has final say.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need a hobby as the fact that you freaked out over something so stupid.  

Heres a tip:

Don&#039;t sweat the small stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need a hobby as the fact that you freaked out over something so stupid.  </p>
<p>Heres a tip:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t sweat the small stuff.</p>
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